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МКАД

Posted: Dec 29th, 18, 09:22
by Mashenka
What does the acronym МКАД? Is it the name of a highway and where is it located?

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 18th, 19, 14:55
by Jeremy Katz
"Московская Кольцевая Автомобильная Дорога", "Moscow Ring-line Automobile Road". A huge roundabout that for some paints the border of Moscow and "that other Russia", "заМКАДье" (literally, "the land beyond MKAD").

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 21st, 19, 13:47
by Mashenka
Thanks. We have the 202 in Phoenix that sort of does that.

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 22nd, 19, 12:24
by Jeremy Katz
Mashenka wrote:Thanks. We have the 202 in Phoenix that sort of does that.


By the looks of it, it's more like I-485 in Indianopolis, Indiana (?), as it sorta gives a border between a city and the suburban area. On a scale of Moscow, as well.
202 in Phoenix can't exactly apply because it only encircles a single district, by the looks of it. Comparably, it would make 202 plus 101, if we're talking Phoenix now. I might be wrong.

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 23rd, 19, 02:58
by Mashenka
No, you're right it is both of them together. They encircle most of the metro, but because of urban sprawl , there us some metro outside the 101 and 202.

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 23rd, 19, 18:00
by Jeremy Katz
Mashenka wrote:No, you're right it is both of them together. They encircle most of the metro, but because of urban sprawl , there us some metro outside the 101 and 202.


Basically, just like in Moscow. It used to mark a city limits half a century back, but now it's just a highway with a historical significance

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 26th, 19, 07:16
by Mashenka
Actually after looking at a map, there are several highways that make an almost circle around the Phoenix metro. Never having looked at a map before, I never thought about it. I just got on whichever highway to get me where I needed to go. After having driven through many parts of the USA, the roads in Phoenix are the most fun to drive because they are kept in good repair, the curves are banked and it seems the lanes are a little wider. People here drive really crazy. I see at least one wreck every day. How is driving on the МКАД? Or in Moscow?

Re: МКАД

Posted: Jan 26th, 19, 15:20
by Jeremy Katz
Mashenka wrote:Actually after looking at a map, there are several highways that make an almost circle around the Phoenix metro. Never having looked at a map before, I never thought about it. I just got on whichever highway to get me where I needed to go. After having driven through many parts of the USA, the roads in Phoenix are the most fun to drive because they are kept in good repair, the curves are banked and it seems the lanes are a little wider. People here drive really crazy. I see at least one wreck every day. How is driving on the МКАД? Or in Moscow?


It's a highway, so people drive there pretty fast, and it's a far more populated city, so there are lots of jams here and there. It actually applies to Moscow in a nutshell - jams all around.
If not exactly wreck, people usually just "rub" one another, y'know. Mere scratches, major accidents don't happen too often.

Re: МКАД

Posted: Feb 1st, 19, 10:25
by Mashenka
Minor mishaps are called a fender bender. They are also called dents, dings or scuffs. I see at least one major wreck daily, usually more. The most dramatic I've seen is a semi truck on fire. I could actually feel the heat in my car, several lanes away. There are more jams during the winter, tourist season. But the wrecks are all year round.The only worse cities to drive for me were Los Angeles and San Francisco in California. They drive faster and crazier than here. Less wrecks though. Better skill maybe?

Re: МКАД

Posted: Feb 5th, 19, 00:04
by Jeremy Katz
Mashenka wrote:Minor mishaps are called a fender bender. They are also called dents, dings or scuffs. I see at least one major wreck daily, usually more. The most dramatic I've seen is a semi truck on fire. I could actually feel the heat in my car, several lanes away. There are more jams during the winter, tourist season. But the wrecks are all year round.The only worse cities to drive for me were Los Angeles and San Francisco in California. They drive faster and crazier than here. Less wrecks though. Better skill maybe?


Like you said, most accidents do indeed happen out of cities. And in winter. Y'know, icy roads, ice between the ears, here and there like everywhere else. And it mostly ends badly, for one or many vehicles and/or, God forbid, people. Shit happens.
As for jams, it jams in any season, but mostly in cities, as there are more cars. And people switch lanes quite recklessly somethimes, which is mostly why "fender benders" happen around here. Like, you won't see many jams in the middle of nowhere around 19 times out of 20. But you may see a wreck on the sidelane or a tree-hugger, if not much worse.
Outside of cities there are longer stretches with fewer patrols, that's why people give it a full throttle. At least, that's the local excuse.